NAD... Satch JVM

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NAD... Satch JVM

Post by donnyboiler » Mon May 08, 2017 6:24 am

So, new amp day. I haven't played a Marshall for a while so it's a good chance to re-orientate myself. I wanted to see how the HJS would feel next to my Boogie JP-2C.

OK, so my biggest worry was that it would feel indistinct, soft and flabby next to the JP... you know, that BAD Marshall sound - all high mid attack but no juice and no transformer thonk. Definitely needn't have worried about that, it sounds like a great Marshall should and it has as much grind as the JP. They can be made to occupy the same frequencies very easily and the Satch feels every bit as special and perfectly sorted as the JP. Just Marshall rather than Mesa.

That is EXACTLY what I was after.

My other concern was that I'd hear the Marshall again (I played them for years) and suddenly the Boogie would sound small, fizzy or unnatural. Again, no such concerns. Yes, the bottom is tighter - but just as big - and obv the distortion grain is razor smooth rather than that lovely corduroy Marshall grit. The funny thing is though, they both sound incredibly organic, the Boogie cleans up just as well as the Marshall (although retains less warmth and bounce when rolled off) and the overall feeling is just like having the most sorted Marshall and the most sorted Boogie imaginable in one room.

The HJS is so raunchy! My Suhrs drive it beautifully for all that grit and swirl you expect, and the low end is so 3D, even with Resonance at 0 (you need it around halfway to match my stock Boogie settings though). Most impressive is the way the low end straddles loose and tight, and the feel straddles warm and punchy - just as a true Marshall should. I could literally stand and play power chords all day, it's disgusting.

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Re: NAD... Satch JVM

Post by RockmanCentral » Tue May 09, 2017 7:17 pm

"I could literally stand and play power chords all day, it's disgusting."

I know what you mean..... when you have an amp that just sounds so magnificent when playing those power chords... it's really hard to stop!!
It doesn't even matter if the progression makes sense.... just the hear that roar!!!

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Re: NAD... Satch JVM

Post by billy7 » Tue May 09, 2017 10:52 pm

"I could literally stand and play power chords all day, it's disgusting."

That's exactly what I do with my HJS every day I get the opportunity. Same goes for the clean channel.

I didn't realize that disgusting can be so satisfying. Thank you, Marshall.
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Re: NAD... Satch JVM

Post by Dark Horse » Sat May 13, 2017 11:24 am

I could have sworn you had an HJS before...am I remembering that wrong?

Nevermind, I just saw your other thread. The way you wrote this one up made it sound like you never tried one before.

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Re: NAD... Satch JVM

Post by Andy » Sun May 14, 2017 12:25 pm

[smiley-shreds] Donnyboiler the amp makers ideal customer ! you do get around a bit mate !

Perhaps you'll grace us with another of your fabulous videos ?

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Post by atarilovesyou » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:39 am

Heya Donnie! Glad to have you back on Team Marshall :) That said, I really like your reviews for the products on your webpage. Thanks to you I now crave a Suhr like nobody's business. I'm still rocking my HJS, still trying to work out a solution for some cabinets (read: cheap fixer uppers). I'm still of the mind that this amp prefers lower output pickups to get the best sounds, but I'm also using the clean channel with a ton of different boosts, distortions, so that I can still use all my high output pups to effective success.

Welcome back! What are you up to playing-wise these days?

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Re: NAD... Satch JVM

Post by nyne » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:04 pm

Great tone in that video!! Which channel were u on ?
Do u feel the HJS requires any mods ?
Interested in a HJS these days.....

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Post by donnyboiler » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:49 am

atarilovesyou wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:39 am
Heya Donnie! Glad to have you back on Team Marshall :) That said, I really like your reviews for the products on your webpage. Thanks to you I now crave a Suhr like nobody's business. I'm still rocking my HJS, still trying to work out a solution for some cabinets (read: cheap fixer uppers). I'm still of the mind that this amp prefers lower output pickups to get the best sounds, but I'm also using the clean channel with a ton of different boosts, distortions, so that I can still use all my high output pups to effective success.

Welcome back! What are you up to playing-wise these days?
Thanks, I only review stuff I love so that makes it easy! I think I agree about the low output pickups, although it loves my Suhr SSH+ which is fairly high. I think maybe it responds to nice open chimy pickups with plenty of bite - a feature the SSH+ shares with PAFs and the like. I guess it would also be fun with stuff like a Super Distortion or EMGs, anything that will tighten up the front end I guess.

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Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:04 pm
Great tone in that video!! Which channel were u on ?
Do u feel the HJS requires any mods ?
Interested in a HJS these days.....
Thanks, that was OD red with no mid shift and all the dials at noon. The only "mod" I think the amp needs is a nice bright, open pickup and an aggressive right hand. It can feel a bit slow/flabby and may need a boost otherwise. I like my Marshalls that way - I have Boogies for fast and tight.

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