Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by erpece » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:22 pm

Most presets on devices like the AxeFX simulate a guitar amp running through a cab and being recorded with a mic. If you would run such a preset through an amp with a guitar cab again, that will change the sound too much. Especially the mids will suffer and that means you will not cut through a live band mix.

Did you try a FRFR powered speaker?
Amp: Marshall JVM410HJS (nov 2012 - present), JVM410H (apr 2007 - dec 2012)
Cab: 1960B with 2 Heritage G12M's and 2 G12T75's, Two Notes Torpedo Live (with home-made IR of my cab)
FX: Line6 Helix, Rocktron Banshee
Guitars: Warmoth Explorer (Bareknuckle Black Dog), Gibson Les Paul Classic (BK Black Dog), Ibanez 1979 Iceman (BK Rebel Yells), EBMM Axis (BK Rebel Yells), Custom PRS (BK Black Dog) and a few more

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by kmanick » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:21 pm

I don't use any cab sims I dialed in these specific patches I use with the band straight through the Powestage into the cab. I don't like FRFR, I just don't gel with it.
I'm going to use my Mesa cab again tomorrow night with my JVM head and see if we can hear a difference.
JVM210H-NegFB mod, Od2-Od1 Mod-Plexi Mod, Od gain reduction Mod
JCM800 2X12
Recto 2X12
Axe FX II
Seismic SAX-15 FRFR powered wedge

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by erpece » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 pm

kmanick wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:21 pm
I don't use any cab sims I dialed in these specific patches I use with the band straight through the Powestage into the cab. I don't like FRFR, I just don't gel with it.
I'm going to use my Mesa cab again tomorrow night with my JVM head and see if we can hear a difference.
That should sound pretty good with the AxeFX going into the JVM poweramp.
Amp: Marshall JVM410HJS (nov 2012 - present), JVM410H (apr 2007 - dec 2012)
Cab: 1960B with 2 Heritage G12M's and 2 G12T75's, Two Notes Torpedo Live (with home-made IR of my cab)
FX: Line6 Helix, Rocktron Banshee
Guitars: Warmoth Explorer (Bareknuckle Black Dog), Gibson Les Paul Classic (BK Black Dog), Ibanez 1979 Iceman (BK Rebel Yells), EBMM Axis (BK Rebel Yells), Custom PRS (BK Black Dog) and a few more

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by kmanick » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:29 pm

well I've used my JVM at 2 rehearsals now, one with the mesa cab and one with my early JCM800 2X12.
I have the negative feedback mod on mine (with a pot ) and against the Axe FX it was no contest.
The JVM takes up so much more sonic room it's not even funny. I set my NFB pot at about noon (8:00 is stock) and opened up
the master to about 12:00 with the channel volume at around 10:00. The amp sounded so wide open and full , the rest of the band
were all instantly against me bringing "that digital crap" back to rehearsal LOL.
I am for the most part using (it's a 210H) od1 green with an Sd-1 in front of it. Green seems to sound thicker than
Orange and for the classic rock stuff we are doing fits the bill nicely. We just decided to add "Satch Boogie" to the set list so I
am going to have to figure some good settings for that one.
I love my Axe FX but the difference was so recognizable , that I can't argue with them.
sucks for me though, as now I have to lug that heavy head and my stomp boxes around :(
JVM210H-NegFB mod, Od2-Od1 Mod-Plexi Mod, Od gain reduction Mod
JCM800 2X12
Recto 2X12
Axe FX II
Seismic SAX-15 FRFR powered wedge

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by erpece » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:58 am

Yeah... nothing like the real thing.

I have a Line6 Helix I use with my HJS (4 cables) and some presets bypass the HJS preamp and use a Helix preamp model instead. Sounds killer.

Did you try running the Axe FX into the JVM poweramp?
Amp: Marshall JVM410HJS (nov 2012 - present), JVM410H (apr 2007 - dec 2012)
Cab: 1960B with 2 Heritage G12M's and 2 G12T75's, Two Notes Torpedo Live (with home-made IR of my cab)
FX: Line6 Helix, Rocktron Banshee
Guitars: Warmoth Explorer (Bareknuckle Black Dog), Gibson Les Paul Classic (BK Black Dog), Ibanez 1979 Iceman (BK Rebel Yells), EBMM Axis (BK Rebel Yells), Custom PRS (BK Black Dog) and a few more

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by kmanick » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:00 pm

I have and it sounds great , but I hate the thought of lugging everything around, one positive would be I get to use both cabs. I may try that tomorrow at rehearsal.
JVM210H-NegFB mod, Od2-Od1 Mod-Plexi Mod, Od gain reduction Mod
JCM800 2X12
Recto 2X12
Axe FX II
Seismic SAX-15 FRFR powered wedge

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by erpece » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:35 am

kmanick wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:00 pm
I have and it sounds great , but I hate the thought of lugging everything around, one positive would be I get to use both cabs. I may try that tomorrow at rehearsal.
Do you have the chance to try and run the Axe FX through the poweramp in of a guitar combo instead of a FRFR? The coloration of the guitar speaker might just do the trick and if it's a solid state combo it won't be too heavy on the back.
Amp: Marshall JVM410HJS (nov 2012 - present), JVM410H (apr 2007 - dec 2012)
Cab: 1960B with 2 Heritage G12M's and 2 G12T75's, Two Notes Torpedo Live (with home-made IR of my cab)
FX: Line6 Helix, Rocktron Banshee
Guitars: Warmoth Explorer (Bareknuckle Black Dog), Gibson Les Paul Classic (BK Black Dog), Ibanez 1979 Iceman (BK Rebel Yells), EBMM Axis (BK Rebel Yells), Custom PRS (BK Black Dog) and a few more

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Re: Sold my JVM & got an Axe-Fx

Post by kmanick » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:55 pm

I don't use any FRFR it's always out to a real cab , either my Mesa 2X12 recto or my JCM 800 2X12
JVM210H-NegFB mod, Od2-Od1 Mod-Plexi Mod, Od gain reduction Mod
JCM800 2X12
Recto 2X12
Axe FX II
Seismic SAX-15 FRFR powered wedge

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