Machine Pagan wrote:
Compared to a JVM, what makes Bogner (the higher end models) such a sought after amp? For the significant bump in price tag, why features would make a serious pick them over say a JVM?
I 'm not too good at describing sound/tone as far as comparing one amp to another, but I'll give it a shot. I currently own 3 Bogners-an Ecstasy 101b, Uberschall, and a Duende-as well as aJVM410H. Of the Bogners, the XTC is the most similar to the JVM in terms of versatility and the range of tones covered.
IMO, the XTC has a more organic feel and is more harmonically 'rich', if that makes sense, particularly when the power amp is working a bit. Also seems to be better note definition and articulation with the XTC, and I find the entire gain range useable on all channels of the XTC. The XTC is also more tweakable in terms of eq with the bright and excursion switches, as well as t, m, b, & prescence. The JVM does have more gain, I think, and is probably the better choice for modern metal. As far as the clean ch, they're both equally good, IMO, once you learn how to set the XTC clean channel up -depends on what you like; I find the XTC cleans to be a bit brighter. JVM is also MIDI switchable out of the box, whereas the XTC requires a special 'Medusa' cable for MIDI. Xtc also has a 1/2 power switch, and an 'old' (triode) vs 'new' (pentode) switch, which together can cut power to about 25w, I think, and give a squishier (is that a word?) feel. Theres also an option for a class a/ab switch (for about $300 more, I think). As far as the XTC being worth the extra $, that's hard to say. I bought my JVM for $1750, before the price hike, and the XTC for around $3300. For my purposes, playing & recording at home (9 week old daughter, no time for playing out at the moment
) I prefer the XTC, but it isn't twice as good as the JVM, as reflected by the prices. About 1/2 of what I play is metal. If I had to choose between the two, I'd probably go with the JVM and pocket the extra $. It'd be a hard choice, though.
The Uber and Duende are nowhere near as versatile as the XTC. The Uber is a bada**, over the top, gain monster, but the clean channel is only so-so. I've heard the Duende described as a Fender Tweed on steroids, but I have no experience w/Tweeds, so I can't comment. It is one hell of a fun little (15w combo) amp, and tone-wise is every bit as good as the XTC, just different. All 3 have that distinct Bogner voicing, which I personally love. The build quality & reliability of the Bogners is also excellent.
Sorry for being so long-winded, hope this somewhat answers your question.
p.s. don't take my post as bashing the JVM. I love my JVM, and have had no problems with it whatsoever. I just love tge Bogner a wee bit more