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My band first recording

Post by mohi » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:57 pm

Well, home made, almost exclusively using plugins and VSTs .... no JVM .... yet, all feedback is welcome! [smilie=headbang.gif]

https://soundcloud.com/sergio-orihuela- ... arture-ftl
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Re: My band first recording

Post by Tonemeister » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:28 pm

awesome song... great guitar solo.

Feedback: the vocals are too loud and the guitars not loud enough... imagine that coming from a guitarist smilie=icon_lol.gif seriously though, I think the vox should be pulled back a touch and the guitar could use a little (not much) boost. Other then that I loved it.

Are you guys planning on replacing the guitar tracks with the JVM at some point?
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Re: My band first recording

Post by mohi » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:38 am

Thanks for the feedback man!

The volumes affair has been hanging around during all the mixing process, I perhaps would have lowered the voice a bit but the band decided to leave it like it is, for demo purposes it is not that bad.

We will record at some time using real amps, for sure, likely and luckily my JVM and the other guy's Laney Ironheart.

thanks again!
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Re: My band first recording

Post by NoWayBackRock » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:18 pm

Hi David,

Fabulous song!...I love it. The plug-ins sound great by the way. One day from release and you have 269 plays [smiley-surprised] ? [smilie=banana_smiley.gif]

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Re: My band first recording

Post by Tonemeister » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:59 pm

mohi wrote:...We will record at some time using real amps, for sure, likely and luckily my JVM and the other guy's Laney Ironheart.
awesome... can't wait to hear that combination of amps. Great job guys.
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Re: My band first recording

Post by mohi » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:22 pm

Thanks again folks! We're promoting it on Facebook quite heavily hence the figures, second track on the oven we hope it has the same good reception!
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Re: My band first recording

Post by jim renolds » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 am

Mohi, I really liked this! Very good job all the way around. I hear what Tonemeister is saying about the vox. I almost think a different reverb (and more of it), perhaps combined with a little more compression, would smooth them out without the need for lowering them in the mix. But I agree that they seem to sit a little too strong in the overall mix. The singer has a nice voice, though! That's a huge plus in your favor.

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Re: My band first recording

Post by Jackie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:38 am

Great song and solo, top notch playing [smilie=gt-happyup.gif]

Amazing what you can do with VSTs these days, great guitar tones.

I don't dig the clicky kick drum though, but I'm really picky when it comes to kick drum sounds and I know you can only do so much with samples (I'm assuming the drums were sampled?).

Also, as others have pointed out, the vocals stick out too much. The problem might not be, as DH said, the volume itself, but the sound and dynamic range. It sounds as if the singer was "separated" from the band. This is a kind of stupid remark to make since tracking is done one-by-one, but what I mean is that to me it doesn't feel part of the mix.
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Re: My band first recording

Post by mohi » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:33 am

Dark Horse wrote:Mohi, I really liked this! Very good job all the way around. I hear what Tonemeister is saying about the vox. I almost think a different reverb (and more of it), perhaps combined with a little more compression, would smooth them out without the need for lowering them in the mix. But I agree that they seem to sit a little too strong in the overall mix. The singer has a nice voice, though! That's a huge plus in your favor.

DH
I agree, too strong and somehow "processed", the guy that mixed it (the other guitarist) is just learning but is very capable, surely will improve it on the next tune.

thanks a lot for the kind words!
Jackie wrote:Great song and solo, top notch playing [smilie=gt-happyup.gif]

Amazing what you can do with VSTs these days, great guitar tones.

I don't dig the clicky kick drum though, but I'm really picky when it comes to kick drum sounds and I know you can only do so much with samples (I'm assuming the drums were sampled?).

Also, as others have pointed out, the vocals stick out too much. The problem might not be, as DH said, the volume itself, but the sound and dynamic range. It sounds as if the singer was "separated" from the band. This is a kind of stupid remark to make since tracking is done one-by-one, but what I mean is that to me it doesn't feel part of the mix.
Thanks man, the drums are Superior Drummer, there was some controvery with the drummer about the mix but is somehow like the voice, it will take us some learning to improve it.

Thanks also for the feedback, really appreciated
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Re: My band first recording

Post by jim renolds » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:00 am

Jackie's right about the clicky kick drums. It stands out during the double-bass licks. But, who pays attention to drummers anyway (unless they really screw up)?
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Re: My band first recording

Post by Andy » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:44 pm

Brutal !

Which plugins etc did you use and which DAW ? Great quality [smilie=gt-happyup.gif]

Mixing is an art and the tendancy is to make everything louder than everything else, i find it useful to walk out of the room and listen to it from outside , like going to the loo at a gig, all sorts of stuff is noticeable.

At 5:12 you could put a slightly longer break in for more effect/surprise.
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Re: My band first recording

Post by mohi » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:37 pm

Thanks Andy! we used LePou plugins for all amp stuff and superior drummer for the rest, I think there is some vocal processing too but was the least successful of them by far. DAW is Cubase. The guy that mixed it is quite new on it so I think he made a very nice job considering all circumstances.

I agree with you on the 5.12 break, actually we play it that way live, most of the times.

thanks again for the feedback!
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Re: My band first recording

Post by Andy » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:07 pm

can you share us a link to a live vid of the track ?
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Re: My band first recording

Post by mohi » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:26 am

Yep, but not very good audio quality, I'm afraid!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_PZGf6g7kM
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Re: My band first recording

Post by Andy » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:54 am

Great ! I'll have to come and see you play


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::: AFD100, DSL100W head (no C83), Fender Champ 12
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