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Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by amt7565 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:55 pm

I have an LP traditional Pro. I believe it has the 57s with silver covers on them. It's a truly wonderful guitar and enjoy every aspect of it.

Right now, I am exploring purchasing another LP, but with more gain.

Any recommendations on humbucker equipped LPs that can provide a little more aggressive gain and fluidity?

I will be using it in conjunction with my JVM410.

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by sloan_amps » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:51 pm

I upgraded the pickups in my Les Paul Traditional to Bareknuckle Nailbombs. It still has that great Les Paul tone but with more gain and tighter low end. It was the perfect match for that guitar. I also upgraded the pickups in my Les Paul Custom to Seymour Duncan Saturday Night Specials. Not as much gain as the Nailbombs but still more aggressive than the 57 Classics it had.

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Greg_L » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:43 am

Fluidity again? Lol.

If you want another Les Paul, look for a late 90s Les Paul Classic. They came with 500T pickups, which are the hottest most gnarliest pickups to ever come in a Les Paul. I hate those pickups, but they are indeed very hot. I don't think any recent or current Les Pauls come with any pickups considered "hot".

And the 90s Classics had a very slim neck...so maybe that can help with your "fluidity".
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by amt7565 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:21 pm

Bah yes 'fluidity', like water, like butter.

My birthday is hitting a critical milestone in a couple of months and I will be looking for one.

Did you mean this one?
https://reverb.com/item/4606541-gibson- ... arent-2011

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Greg_L » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:01 pm

amt7565 wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:21 pm
Bah yes 'fluidity', like water, like butter.

My birthday is hitting a critical milestone in a couple of months and I will be looking for one.

Did you mean this one?
https://reverb.com/item/4606541-gibson- ... arent-2011
Yes, that's one right there.

You don't have to spend that much though. There are many clean late 90s/early 00s models out there for much less. I'm thinking you could find one around $1100 or so if you look around. They're great guitars.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by amt7565 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:03 am

Looked up a demo and they do sound great. This guy has an EVH sound on his:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg92uQAXFrc

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Greg_L » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:40 pm

amt7565 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:03 am
Looked up a demo and they do sound great. This guy has an EVH sound on his:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg92uQAXFrc
I wonder how one learns to play like that.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by amt7565 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:12 pm

So went to GC today and absolutely loved this 2017 Gold HP series Classic. It is 'Used' in immaculate condition priced at $1899.00. See attached picture.

Played it through a 5150. The strings are 9s and plays very well.

I am not sure what these pickups are though. The store personnel think its the same as the Zebra 57, just that they are black instead of black/white. But when looking up the Gibson website, it does not show a 2017 Classic model with these pickups. Instead they have the silver plated pickups. Just want to make sure that the pickups have not been swapped with something I don't know of.

Anyone can shed some light on what these pickups pictured are?

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Greg_L » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:09 pm

amt7565 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:12 pm
So went to GC today and absolutely loved this 2017 Gold HP series Classic. It is 'Used' in immaculate condition priced at $1899.00. See attached picture.

Played it through a 5150. The strings are 9s and plays very well.

I am not sure what these pickups are though. The store personnel think its the same as the Zebra 57, just that they are black instead of black/white. But when looking up the Gibson website, it does not show a 2017 Classic model with these pickups. Instead they have the silver plated pickups. Just want to make sure that the pickups have not been swapped with something I don't know of.

Anyone can shed some light on what these pickups pictured are?

thanks
There is no telling what those pickups are. I'd suggest you have GC remove them so you can investigate. There will likely be some kind of identification under the baseplates. If GC wants to sell the guitar, they will oblige your request. They may say "just buy it and return it if you don't like it", which is valid, but try to pressure them beforehand.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by amt7565 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:47 pm

OK so they opened it last night and discovered that they were Slash pickups. The prior owner that returned it had changed the PUs and also the tone controls to match the PU. In addition the tuners were also changed. Though it sounded fantastic, I decided not buy it for worry of having to resell it some time in the future and the hassle of having to explain why the PUs are not originals.

So I ended up getting a brand new Gold Classic instead(not HP) with the Zebras. They are setting it up right now and I am going to pick it up.

I traded in my EVH Wolfgang and got a pretty good deal out of it. I will use the 45 day trial to check it out.

The classic neck is a lot easier to play indeed.

thanks for your assistance to date.

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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Greg_L » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:14 pm

amt7565 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:47 pm
OK so they opened it last night and discovered that they were Slash pickups. The prior owner that returned it had changed the PUs and also the tone controls to match the PU. In addition the tuners were also changed. Though it sounded fantastic, I decided not buy it for worry of having to resell it some time in the future and the hassle of having to explain why the PUs are not originals.

So I ended up getting a brand new Gold Classic instead(not HP) with the Zebras. They are setting it up right now and I am going to pick it up.

I traded in my EVH Wolfgang and got a pretty good deal out of it. I will use the 45 day trial to check it out.

The classic neck is a lot easier to play indeed.

thanks for your assistance to date.
Awesome! Congratulations.

The pickups in your new guitar should be 57 Classics. Really nice pickups IMO. Not very hot though. But they are very rich and clear with great midrange. Nice punch to them.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Iwanarock » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:38 am

You want hot pickups in a Les Paul check out Gibson Bill Kelliher Halcyon Les Paul. Below is a review of the guitar.

http://iheartguitarblog.com/2014/12/rev ... uwPdx.dpbs

I have a Bill Kelliher Golden Axe Explorer with Hemi Lace pickups in it and they are the hottest pickups i have ever played with. And the pictures of the paint job DO NOT do it justice, it is an absolutely stunning guitar with the same color scheme as the Les Paul.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my Les Paul

Post by Spacerocker » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:00 am

Before you change your guitar or pickups, it might be worth trying Ermie Ball Cobalt strings? I use these on my LP Traditional with Classic 57 and 57+ Pickups. Also I guess you have already experimented with the pick up height? Further away from the strings = sweeter, richer, more mellow. Closer to the strings = Louder, harsher, more aggressive! The trick is finding the sweet spot. For me it is a couple of mm for the bridge pick up and about double that for the neck.

The Cobalt strings give a higher, more aggressive output, without drastically changing the feel and tone of the guitar. I think a LP with "hot" pickups can end up sounding just like any other Humbucker guitar!
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